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		<title>Comment on Pit Bull Dress Up by Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After this post went live I got a message about this cool company that sells clothing for pit bulls. Check them out and dress &#039;em up! http://dressabull.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After this post went live I got a message about this cool company that sells clothing for pit bulls. Check them out and dress &#8216;em up! <a href="http://dressabull.com" rel="nofollow">http://dressabull.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Matter of Perspective by capri</title>
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		<dc:creator>capri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great human! Lucky doggy! &lt;3</description>
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		<title>Comment on Addressing the Age Old Problem of Chewing by JenB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, and the 2-lb. London broil off the counter. Raw! Found the wrapper under the bed.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Addressing the Age Old Problem of Chewing by JenB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I am laughing now that my dog is no longer chewing. It took until 3 yrs. old before she quit sneaking things under the bed. I am now the proud owner of a quarter of our public library. Books seemed to be a favorite, along with sunglasses, the phone, any small object she could make off with behind our back and sneak under the bed, and two pairs of Chacos (I plan on sending them to be re-stringed to the Chaco factory with her picture saying, &quot;Chacos? I thought you said they were Chewcos!&quot; These are a small representation of what I can think of, but they were always mobile objects, nothing big like furniture or walls.

All this despite attending dog daycare the first 3 yrs of her life, being crated when we were not home, training sessions, hiking, daily dog park trips and numerous Kongs, bones and toys. What a little monkey my Inca is. She&#039;s still very mischievious at times. Gotta love that spirit.

Our male dog, the pit-pointer, however, has really not chewed up anything despite adopting him from the shelter at one year old. He loves to chew, big time, but only chews on what we give him. Good boy, Domino!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I am laughing now that my dog is no longer chewing. It took until 3 yrs. old before she quit sneaking things under the bed. I am now the proud owner of a quarter of our public library. Books seemed to be a favorite, along with sunglasses, the phone, any small object she could make off with behind our back and sneak under the bed, and two pairs of Chacos (I plan on sending them to be re-stringed to the Chaco factory with her picture saying, &#8220;Chacos? I thought you said they were Chewcos!&#8221; These are a small representation of what I can think of, but they were always mobile objects, nothing big like furniture or walls.</p>
<p>All this despite attending dog daycare the first 3 yrs of her life, being crated when we were not home, training sessions, hiking, daily dog park trips and numerous Kongs, bones and toys. What a little monkey my Inca is. She&#8217;s still very mischievious at times. Gotta love that spirit.</p>
<p>Our male dog, the pit-pointer, however, has really not chewed up anything despite adopting him from the shelter at one year old. He loves to chew, big time, but only chews on what we give him. Good boy, Domino!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Cesar Millan Bad For Your Dog? by Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you Jen. That&#039;s the big problem with some of Cesar&#039;s techniques, when things go bad, they go real bad. Dog Star Daily is great and Ian Dunbar is one of my biggest influences as a trainer. I plan on doing an interview with him in 2012 for a new video series I&#039;m working on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you Jen. That&#8217;s the big problem with some of Cesar&#8217;s techniques, when things go bad, they go real bad. Dog Star Daily is great and Ian Dunbar is one of my biggest influences as a trainer. I plan on doing an interview with him in 2012 for a new video series I&#8217;m working on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Cesar Millan Bad For Your Dog? by JenB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a follower of Dog Star Daily and many other training sites like this one, and as owner of two pit mixes (which is painful at times with all the prejudice), one being a registered therapy dog through Delta Society, I have to say I get tired of hearing Cesar this, Cesar that. The worst was when someone at the dog park took my 5 mo. old puppy and pinned her down by the throat claiming that I needed to watch more Cesar Milan. Believe me, there was a verbal heated &quot;discussion&quot; when this woman who deemed herself a dog whisperer did that to my playful puppy. 

A friend gave me Cesar&#039;s first set of DVDs and with all that I have learned I have to say some of his methods in the scenarios appalled me and I&#039;m not a trainer, just very immersed in the dog world. Another example is a female husky at one of our off-leash areas that has a reputation for jumping other dogs and starting fights. Granted she should not even be at the dog park, but my point in this case is that her owner pins her to the ground as punishment, ala Cesar. I&#039;ve seen her attack four dogs in the four times I&#039;ve been at this particular dog park. The alpha roll does not seem to be working! After her dog took a bite out of the side of my therapy dog, I&#039;ve not returned to the dog park, period, but some day this dog is going to meet her match and there is going to be a horrendous dog fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a follower of Dog Star Daily and many other training sites like this one, and as owner of two pit mixes (which is painful at times with all the prejudice), one being a registered therapy dog through Delta Society, I have to say I get tired of hearing Cesar this, Cesar that. The worst was when someone at the dog park took my 5 mo. old puppy and pinned her down by the throat claiming that I needed to watch more Cesar Milan. Believe me, there was a verbal heated &#8220;discussion&#8221; when this woman who deemed herself a dog whisperer did that to my playful puppy. </p>
<p>A friend gave me Cesar&#8217;s first set of DVDs and with all that I have learned I have to say some of his methods in the scenarios appalled me and I&#8217;m not a trainer, just very immersed in the dog world. Another example is a female husky at one of our off-leash areas that has a reputation for jumping other dogs and starting fights. Granted she should not even be at the dog park, but my point in this case is that her owner pins her to the ground as punishment, ala Cesar. I&#8217;ve seen her attack four dogs in the four times I&#8217;ve been at this particular dog park. The alpha roll does not seem to be working! After her dog took a bite out of the side of my therapy dog, I&#8217;ve not returned to the dog park, period, but some day this dog is going to meet her match and there is going to be a horrendous dog fight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Cesar Millan Bad For Your Dog? by Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Angela. Praise and rewards should be the basis of all relationships with dogs. In any given day if you are doing less than 90% praise, you&#039;re off the mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Angela. Praise and rewards should be the basis of all relationships with dogs. In any given day if you are doing less than 90% praise, you&#8217;re off the mark.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Cesar Millan Bad For Your Dog? by Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on there is always room to grow and learn new ways of doing things. As with children and our furbabies, some of which come to us with backgrounds unknown, we have to work at their pace. This is something of which I do daily while grooming. I never try to rush and I watch their reactions to all that I do. Over the years my speed in my work always goes into how I react or act before something is about to go down. I believe in positive training, for it goes such a long way with our furbabies and our children. When we praise on what they are doing correctly, they tend to do that more often. But we must also encourage for those who are shy and are afraid of the unknown. Once you know pretty much how one reacts, then you can proceed onto other things. Same of which goes for children as well. We all learn at a different pace, not one is ever the same as another. Most of all, treat all with much love, for that may be the only time they might receive it.

Love &amp; Light
Angela
w/ANGELS R4 REAL PET GROOMING/PET SITTING</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on there is always room to grow and learn new ways of doing things. As with children and our furbabies, some of which come to us with backgrounds unknown, we have to work at their pace. This is something of which I do daily while grooming. I never try to rush and I watch their reactions to all that I do. Over the years my speed in my work always goes into how I react or act before something is about to go down. I believe in positive training, for it goes such a long way with our furbabies and our children. When we praise on what they are doing correctly, they tend to do that more often. But we must also encourage for those who are shy and are afraid of the unknown. Once you know pretty much how one reacts, then you can proceed onto other things. Same of which goes for children as well. We all learn at a different pace, not one is ever the same as another. Most of all, treat all with much love, for that may be the only time they might receive it.</p>
<p>Love &amp; Light<br />
Angela<br />
w/ANGELS R4 REAL PET GROOMING/PET SITTING</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Cesar Millan Bad For Your Dog? by Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 15:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff. As I mentioned Cesar does do really great things and I am a fan but do think he has some stuff to learn. He has done more for the Pit Bull than any other human on the planet and for that we should all be forever grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff. As I mentioned Cesar does do really great things and I am a fan but do think he has some stuff to learn. He has done more for the Pit Bull than any other human on the planet and for that we should all be forever grateful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Cesar Millan Bad For Your Dog? by Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regularly watch Cesar&#039;s show and have yet to see him apply over-the-top physical corrections.  Yes, I see him apply physical corrections at carefully chosen times, but I will not accept anyone&#039;s judgment that these corrections are excessive or over-the-top until I see evidence of psychological trauma or physical bruises.  Sometimes, I see owners who become momentarily upset that their dogs have received corrections, but they recover very quickly - as do their dogs.  (As someone who never uses physical punishment with my dog, I am sure I would be initially uncomfortable if I saw Cesar or another trainer administer a mild behind-the-leg kick or a hand poke to her, but I am equally as sure that I would quickly get over it once I saw that she wasn&#039;t being harmed, psychologically or physically, and that the targeted behavior was improving.  And, no, I don&#039;t want teachers using corporal punishment in school!)  As each show progresses, I see evidence that the dogs in question are making very satisfying progress and not one of them looks like s/he has suffered any psychological or physical damage.  Given the presenting problems, which in many cases are quite serious, my conclusion is that Cesar is achieving quite amazing results using minimal  aversives and quite a lot of structure (plus exercise and, when appropriate, affection).    Having said all of this, I admit that I don&#039;t know what goes on behind the scenes, or what has been edited out of the final footage.  There might well be cases where Cesar&#039;s interventions haven&#039;t worked or even where they might have exacerbated existing problems.   Still, I would have to see these things for myself and form my own conclusions.  I will not simply take someone else&#039;s word for it.   After all, trainees, environmental variables, and trainers all contribute to the success or failure of interventions. 

I would not attempt the Alpha Roll and I have no opinion as to its applicability in dog training.  (I once had a &quot;pit mix&quot; who greeted a dog he got along with (another &quot;pit mix&quot;) by bumping her into lying down.  Then he would stand over/on top of her.  In a couple of seconds, they would start walking together peacefully. I didn&#039;t like seeing this and thought it was bad manners on my dog&#039;s part, but it seemed to work for them.  (I do not know how to interpret this interaction.  I can think of several possibilities, but it seems useless to simply speculate.)  In any event, viewers of Cesar&#039;s show are routinely advised not to apply Cesar&#039;s techniques by themselves.

I do not use Cesar&#039;s techniques because I&#039;m rather selfish and enjoy giving my dog far more affection than structure or exercise - and I do provide her with a generous amount of training both indoors and outdoors.  I&#039;m working on reversing this order, but, to be honest, I&#039;m still failing miserably.
 
People (including those who are dog trainers) will have to prove to me that they can achieve Cesar&#039;s results with the types of cases he takes on while using as few aversives as he seems to employ.  Keep in mind that much of what we call &quot;corrections&quot; can be regarded as containing &quot;aversives&quot; (which behaviorists define in operational terms). Even reprimands can be regarded as aversives.  Context is critical!   Also keep in mind that &quot;behaviorism&quot; encompasses a number of different schools of thought.  Despite certain theoretical differences, many approaches complement each other to a certain degree in practical therapeutic applications.  In the &quot;real world&quot; of consumer-driven therapies, policies and procedures based on behavioral principles have been adopted with liability considerations in mind.  This has resulted in ongoing debates among professionals over the proper role and definition of &quot;aversives.&quot;

I would never place a wager on Cesar winning a debate with professional dog trainers with extensive clinical experience and strong academic credentials.  I would still gladly utilize his guidance (if I could afford it!) if I had a dog with serious problem behaviors.  I would also welcome the advise of dog trainers who strenuously disagree with Cesar!  I have happily subscribed to The Whole Dog Journal for many years and own (and have read) quite a number of books by behaviorally-oriented dog trainers whose approaches are not totally compatible with Cesar&#039;s.  Every approach is fine with me, as long as it is, in my opinion, humane, pragmatic, and effective.   

Hats off to Cesar who has done so much for dogs, their owners, and the communities in which they live!  Cue wild applause for (the late, great) Daddy&#039;s and Junior&#039;s owner and the owner of the Dog Psychology Center.   Keep doing exactly what you have been doing for the bully breeds and all the other breeds and breed mixes of the world!  And, Cesar, continue to consult with other dog behaviorists and trainers to improve your skills and knowledge base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I regularly watch Cesar&#8217;s show and have yet to see him apply over-the-top physical corrections.  Yes, I see him apply physical corrections at carefully chosen times, but I will not accept anyone&#8217;s judgment that these corrections are excessive or over-the-top until I see evidence of psychological trauma or physical bruises.  Sometimes, I see owners who become momentarily upset that their dogs have received corrections, but they recover very quickly &#8211; as do their dogs.  (As someone who never uses physical punishment with my dog, I am sure I would be initially uncomfortable if I saw Cesar or another trainer administer a mild behind-the-leg kick or a hand poke to her, but I am equally as sure that I would quickly get over it once I saw that she wasn&#8217;t being harmed, psychologically or physically, and that the targeted behavior was improving.  And, no, I don&#8217;t want teachers using corporal punishment in school!)  As each show progresses, I see evidence that the dogs in question are making very satisfying progress and not one of them looks like s/he has suffered any psychological or physical damage.  Given the presenting problems, which in many cases are quite serious, my conclusion is that Cesar is achieving quite amazing results using minimal  aversives and quite a lot of structure (plus exercise and, when appropriate, affection).    Having said all of this, I admit that I don&#8217;t know what goes on behind the scenes, or what has been edited out of the final footage.  There might well be cases where Cesar&#8217;s interventions haven&#8217;t worked or even where they might have exacerbated existing problems.   Still, I would have to see these things for myself and form my own conclusions.  I will not simply take someone else&#8217;s word for it.   After all, trainees, environmental variables, and trainers all contribute to the success or failure of interventions. </p>
<p>I would not attempt the Alpha Roll and I have no opinion as to its applicability in dog training.  (I once had a &#8220;pit mix&#8221; who greeted a dog he got along with (another &#8220;pit mix&#8221;) by bumping her into lying down.  Then he would stand over/on top of her.  In a couple of seconds, they would start walking together peacefully. I didn&#8217;t like seeing this and thought it was bad manners on my dog&#8217;s part, but it seemed to work for them.  (I do not know how to interpret this interaction.  I can think of several possibilities, but it seems useless to simply speculate.)  In any event, viewers of Cesar&#8217;s show are routinely advised not to apply Cesar&#8217;s techniques by themselves.</p>
<p>I do not use Cesar&#8217;s techniques because I&#8217;m rather selfish and enjoy giving my dog far more affection than structure or exercise &#8211; and I do provide her with a generous amount of training both indoors and outdoors.  I&#8217;m working on reversing this order, but, to be honest, I&#8217;m still failing miserably.</p>
<p>People (including those who are dog trainers) will have to prove to me that they can achieve Cesar&#8217;s results with the types of cases he takes on while using as few aversives as he seems to employ.  Keep in mind that much of what we call &#8220;corrections&#8221; can be regarded as containing &#8220;aversives&#8221; (which behaviorists define in operational terms). Even reprimands can be regarded as aversives.  Context is critical!   Also keep in mind that &#8220;behaviorism&#8221; encompasses a number of different schools of thought.  Despite certain theoretical differences, many approaches complement each other to a certain degree in practical therapeutic applications.  In the &#8220;real world&#8221; of consumer-driven therapies, policies and procedures based on behavioral principles have been adopted with liability considerations in mind.  This has resulted in ongoing debates among professionals over the proper role and definition of &#8220;aversives.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would never place a wager on Cesar winning a debate with professional dog trainers with extensive clinical experience and strong academic credentials.  I would still gladly utilize his guidance (if I could afford it!) if I had a dog with serious problem behaviors.  I would also welcome the advise of dog trainers who strenuously disagree with Cesar!  I have happily subscribed to The Whole Dog Journal for many years and own (and have read) quite a number of books by behaviorally-oriented dog trainers whose approaches are not totally compatible with Cesar&#8217;s.  Every approach is fine with me, as long as it is, in my opinion, humane, pragmatic, and effective.   </p>
<p>Hats off to Cesar who has done so much for dogs, their owners, and the communities in which they live!  Cue wild applause for (the late, great) Daddy&#8217;s and Junior&#8217;s owner and the owner of the Dog Psychology Center.   Keep doing exactly what you have been doing for the bully breeds and all the other breeds and breed mixes of the world!  And, Cesar, continue to consult with other dog behaviorists and trainers to improve your skills and knowledge base.</p>
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